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  • Super B
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    2015 NBA Free Agency



    Crazy year with tons of ca$h flying around.

    We'll focus on our three Texas teams, but we can talk league wide as well.
    Last edited by Super B; 07-05-2015, 10:52 AM.
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  • Super B
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    #2


    Losses
    Tyson Chandler agrees to sign with Suns
    Al Farouq-Aminu signed with Portland, 4 years, $30M
    Monta Ellis agrees to sign with Indiana, 4 years, $44M
    Rondo agrees to a 1 year deal with the Sad SAC Kings worth ?

    Signings
    Raymond Felton excercised his player option for the 2015-2016 season
    Deandre Jordan, 4 years, $80+M
    Wesley Matthews, 4 years $57M
    JJ Barea agrees to a 2 year deal worth ?

    Trades
    None yet

    Big names in deep negotiations with


    Then there are other guys the Mavs are or could be interested in depending on what happens with the three guys they are focused on.
    Last edited by Super B; 07-06-2015, 04:55 PM.
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    • Super B
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      #3


      Losses
      None yet

      Signings
      Excercised team option on Kostas Papanikolaou
      Patrick Beverly 4 years, $23.4M
      Corey Brewer 3 years, $24M

      Trades
      None yet

      In deep negotiations with

      Rockets are talking to Josh Smith
      Last edited by Super B; 07-06-2015, 05:14 PM.
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      • Super B
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        #4


        Losses
        Cory Joseph agrees to deal with Raptors
        !arco Belinelli agree to 3 year deal with the Sad Sac Kings
        Aron Baynes agrees to deal with Pistons

        Signings
        Danny Green agrees to 4 years, $45M
        Kawhi Leonard agrees to 5 years approx $90M (specific details yet to be released
        LaMarcus Aldridge ( terms not yet released)

        Trades
        Tiago Splitter sent to Hawks

        In deep negotiations with

        Resigning Ginobli is almost a guarantee.
        Last edited by Super B; 07-06-2015, 05:10 PM.
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        • Super B
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          #5
          If y'all here of any news, please post it here. I will update each of the above team post as often as I can.
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          • SLC13
            '16 6A Pick 'Em Champ & '15 6A Pick 'Em Runner-Up
            • Apr 2015
            • 189

            #6
            No additional news on the Mavericks 2015-16 "fill the roster quest". The bigger question, though, is this the time to blow this up and start collecting assets?? I'm thinking that it is.

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            • Super B
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              #7
              Originally posted by SLC13
              No additional news on the Mavericks 2015-16 "fill the roster quest". The bigger question, though, is this the time to blow this up and start collecting assets?? I'm thinking that it is.
              Probably has been for a while. Certainly if they don't get Jordan. There are NO good backup plans.
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              • Eagle2
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                #8
                Originally posted by SLC13
                No additional news on the Mavericks 2015-16 "fill the roster quest". The bigger question, though, is this the time to blow this up and start collecting assets?? I'm thinking that it is.
                Yes agree as much as I hate to see/say it. Its time for the mavericks to blow it up and start over. Take the losses and go(draft) after some of this fresh young talent coming out of colleges. Gosh look at all of the talent that just got drafted from the Kentucky developmental team plus Duke and others. Face it the Mavs are not a good free agent producer its just a band aid or temporary fix that gives them nothing. Cuban and the Mavs have lost a lot of their glimmer they once held years ago as a team to play for. Dirk no longer can carry this team and needs some quality secondary players. Carlisle deserves better and probably could develop some young stars. Would like to see nothing more than Dirk leaving the Mavs help developing a group of young superstars.Yes Cuban and the Mavs blow this thing help. Time ran out years ago. Too many other teams have surpassed you ie San Antonio, Houston, Clippers, Warriors, OKC.

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                • Super B
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                  #9
                  Deandre Jordan signs with the Dallas Mavericks. 4 years, $80+M
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                  • Super B
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                    #10
                    Word is the Mavs are talking with the Jet to see if he would be interested in getting back on THEIR runway. Also, as previously reported, JJ Barea has talked to Miami, but that is far from a done deal. He still could come back to the Mavs.
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                    • Super B
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                      #11
                      Per Cuban Barea will be back.

                      Also Wes Matthews deal is done. 4 years, $57M
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                      • Eagle2
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Super B
                        Per Cuban Barea will be back.

                        Also Wes Matthews deal is done. 4 years, $57M
                        Great was concerned about Mavs PG position. Barea can get the job done on offense. Anderson at 2, Parsons at 3,Dirk/Mattews 4, Jordan at 5. Would like to see more youth start at 3-4 and bring Dirk off bench.

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                        • Super B
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                          #13
                          Mavs plan to re-up Devin Harris too.
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                          • SLC13
                            '16 6A Pick 'Em Champ & '15 6A Pick 'Em Runner-Up
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 189

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Super B
                            Per Cuban Barea will be back.
                            Deandre Jordan signs with the Dallas Mavericks. 4 years, $80+M
                            Also Wes Matthews deal is done. 4 years, $57M

                            $140M for Jordon and Mathews..........wow, just f@#&ing wow!!? Cuban really does have more money than brains.

                            So much for the "blowing it up" strategy. Sorry, it's hard for me to get excited over these signings, they both look like band aids to me..
                            Last edited by SLC13; 07-04-2015, 07:00 AM.

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                            • Super B
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                              #15
                              Jordan is no bandaid, but I get what you are saying. In a way I am disappointed, especially after hearing Cuban admit that had they not gotten these guys, that's exactly what they would have done. Blow it up. Take a listen to this Cuban interview on The Ticket yesterday.
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                              • Super B
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                                #16
                                So now as a Mavs fan you have to hope Matthews and Parsons can come back to as close to what they were pre-injury as possible. You have to hope they take the draft seriously from now on. You have to hope they can continue to add solid bargain pieces that are complimentary to each other. You have to hope Carlisle can be the great coach and master of fitting any player combos together that we know he is.

                                If ALL of those things work, they should remain very competitive. If even one of those don't work, they could miss playoffs.
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                                • Super B
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                                  #17


                                  #GoSpursGo
                                  Last edited by Super B; 07-04-2015, 04:57 PM.
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                                  • SLC13
                                    '16 6A Pick 'Em Champ & '15 6A Pick 'Em Runner-Up
                                    • Apr 2015
                                    • 189

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Super B
                                    Jordan is no bandaid, but I get what you are saying. In a way I am disappointed, especially after hearing Cuban admit that had they not gotten these guys, that's exactly what they would have done. Blow it up. Take a listen to this Cuban interview on The Ticket yesterday.
                                    http://www.bobanddan.com/guests/?plyrrec=178026
                                    Well Jordon might be a little better than a band aid, but you have to rotate him in and out during crunch time because he can't shoot foul shots. That doesn't equal $80M to me, but maybe that's today's NBA. I'm not getting the Mathews acquisition, I just remember him being a PO no show for Portland..

                                    Look at Aldridge's contract with the Spurs. It seems to me that the Mavs could have spent $140M to keep Chandler and sign Aldridge and been closer to a team that could win the West than what they've done..
                                    Last edited by SLC13; 07-05-2015, 09:43 PM.

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                                    • Super B
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                                      #19
                                      The Spurs acquisition of Aldridge is pretty big IMO. I could see Duncan taking on the Robinson role here and giving up the primary leadership role to Aldridge. Getting rid of Splitter and Baynes may have been necessary to get this done, but now they have to figure out who fills that role. The answer is obvious. Duncan. Duncan played Center in college. The man is seven feet tall. When he came into the league he played power forward for obvious reasons, yet even when Robinson started coming off the bench, Duncan didn't start playing Center. Not even when Robinson retired. For whatever reason the Spurs or Duncan insisted on keeping Duncan as the PF. I have always felt Duncan's natural position was Center. There is no reason he cannot be the starting Center now and play along side Aldridge.

                                      Either way the Spurs just ensured they will be legit contenders for a long time to come.
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                                      • Super B
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                                        #20
                                        Mavs plan to talk to Devin Harris and the J.E.T.
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                                        • Eagle2
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Super B
                                          Mavs plan to talk to Devin Harris and the J.E.T.
                                          also JJ Barerra.

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                                          • Super B
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                                            #22
                                            Rockets resigned Beverly and Brewer, talking to Josh Smith.
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                                            • Super B
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                                              #23
                                              Spurs' Belinelli, Joseph and Baynes signed with different teams.
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                                              • Super B
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Eagle2
                                                also JJ Barerra.


                                                yes. Thank you. I already have the Mavs post updated. Barea deal is already Done. He agrees to a 2 year deal.
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                                                • Eagle2
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Super B



                                                  yes. Thank you. I already have the Mavs post updated. Barea deal is already Done. He agrees to a 2 year deal.
                                                  Also on roster Dwight Powell & Jeremy Evans.

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                                                  • Eagle2
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Super B
                                                    Deandre Jordan signs with the Dallas Mavericks. 4 years, $80+M
                                                    Reneging on his word and goes back to Clippers. Delivers a knockout blow to the Mavs that puts them in deep hurt. Does this now force the Mavs to blow it up? Wondering if this was Jordan plan all along or does a man have the right to change his mind?A man's word is supposed to be good. Sure Cuban will try and petition NBA & players association for future and because of the domino effect it causes? I guess teams have no recourse during this bargaining period? What happen to all this talk about Jordan and CP3?

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                                                    • Super B
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                                                      #27
                                                      I haven't felt like updating this thread or talking about it. I will this weekend.
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                                                      • SLC13
                                                        '16 6A Pick 'Em Champ & '15 6A Pick 'Em Runner-Up
                                                        • Apr 2015
                                                        • 189

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Eagle2
                                                        Reneging on his word and goes back to Clippers. Delivers a knockout blow to the Mavs that puts them in deep hurt. Does this now force the Mavs to blow it up? Wondering if this was Jordan plan all along or does a man have the right to change his mind?A man's word is supposed to be good. Sure Cuban will try and petition NBA & players association for future and because of the domino effect it causes? I guess teams have no recourse during this bargaining period? What happen to all this talk about Jordan and CP3?
                                                        I didn't like the Jordan signing from the beginning and have said so consistently. I didn't feel he was worth the $$ then based on his performance and potential. I certainly don't want him now. He's not someone that will become " the man" that you can build a team around.

                                                        Eagle2, to answer your question; everyone has the right to change their mind, so that's not really at issue here. When you're making a decision about your professional life and the amount of $$ involved here, ADULTS examine what they really want, gather their facts and offers and then make a decision. KIDS on the other hand often don't know what they really want, usually don't get all the facts they need and often get swayed by the first compliments and offer thrown their way. DeAndre Jordan just proved that he's an immature KID.
                                                        Last edited by SLC13; 07-09-2015, 10:31 PM.

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                                                        • Eagle2
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SLC13

                                                          I didn't like the Jordan signing from the beginning and have said so consistently. I didn't feel he was worth the $$ then based on his performance and potential. I certainly don't want him now. He's not someone that will become " the man" that you can build a team around.

                                                          Eagle2, to answer your question; everyone has the right to change their mind, so that's not really at issue here. When you're making a decision about your professional life and the amount of $$ involved here, ADULTS examine what they really want, gather their facts and offers and then make a decision. KIDS on the other hand often don't know what they really want, usually don't get all the facts they need and often get swayed by the first compliments and offer thrown their way. DeAndre Jordan just proved that he's an immature KID.
                                                          Point taken.Definitely an immature kid along with poor advisors. I guess its no different than a high school athlete doing a flip flop after verbally committing to a university or a college coach leaving a university after recruiting athletes. No common courtesy necessary. I guess I am just too old school/fashioned where a man's word meant something (was as good as gold) or where a courtesy phone call/conversation was acceptable and understandable.

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                                                          • Super B
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SLC13



                                                            I didn't like the Jordan signing from the beginning and have said so consistently. I didn't feel he was worth the $$ then based on his performance and potential. I certainly don't want him now. He's not someone that will become " the man" that you can build a team around.



                                                            Eagle2, to answer your question; everyone has the right to change their mind, so that's not really at issue here. When you're making a decision about your professional life and the amount of $$ involved here, ADULTS examine what they really want, gather their facts and offers and then make a decision. KIDS on the other hand often don't know what they really want, usually don't get all the facts they need and often get swayed by the first compliments and offer thrown their way. DeAndre Jordan just proved that he's an immature KID.


                                                            the biggest problem I have with the whole Jordan thing, is he did not even have the respect or courtesy to contact Cuban and the Mavs when he started having second thoughts. This meant the Mavs were under the impression they had a "good faith" agreement with Jordan. This had a ripple effect because the Mavs stopped pursuing or did not pursue any alternative F/A options. Had Jordan informed he Mavs of his concerns they could have pursued other Free Agents. They did not find out until the eleventh hour, by which time it was too late.



                                                            Where they go from here we can discuss on the Mavs team thread.
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