2015 NBA Free Agency

[Eagle2]

Cuban gives timeline details of events that took place with Jordan. In a post sent Friday morning on his messaging app, Cyber Dust, Cuban gave his side of the story from the day before Jordan reneged on his verbal commitment to the Mavs and re-signed with the Los Angeles Clippers. Jordan did not respond to any of Cuban's attempts to contact him on Wednesday, Cuban said, when the center welcomed a Clippers contingent to his home that included team president and head coach Doc Rivers, owner Steve Ballmer and teammates Chris Paul,Blake Griffin, J.J. Redick and Paul Pierce.
"Through all of Monday we were texting back and forth discussing players available, the amount of cap room we had left. Who our staff liked. How excited he was," Cuban wrote.
"Then on Tuesday the communications basically stopped and we started hearing rumblings from multiple people that something was up.
"So I flew to Houston and got a room at the galleria, which is just a few minutes from his house. I had my driver take me to his house. It's inside a small gated community but the gate was wide open. So we drove in and I literally walked right up to his door.
"There was no one home. So I texted him saying that I was there. I know something is up. Let's talk. He texted me that he was on a date."
Cuban wrote that he told Jordan to have fun and offered to "come by there and say hi" or take Jordan and his date back to Dallas for a night out. Jordan did not respond.
After about 10 minutes, Cuban wrote, he returned to his hotel. He "didn't think it was right" to sit in front of Jordan's house.
Once at the hotel, Cuban wrote that he texted Jordan: "Have fun on this date and we will talk," and received an immediate reply from Jordan thanking him.
"He knew I was in town," Cuban wrote. "He knew I was close by. I knew something was up. I was getting the same reports that everyone else was.
"I also knew his agents were coming to town. It made sense that he would talk to them and worst case, even if he was having second thoughts the agent would be able to give me updates.
"Like any big career move it's natural to have second thoughts. So while I was concerned, I still wasn't worried. So I went to bed."
Cuban ended the post: "More to come"

source: ESPN

[SLC13]

Surely the moratorium rule will be eliminated or changed to a much shorter window. The NBA is the only Pro league in the U.S. that has that rule. Since this has been the way it has been going for years, NBA teams AND players should be able to trust the system. This isn't the first time the system been violated, but this is the biggest F/A and it has made the biggest impact On a team than ever before. I have to think the NBA will address it. There is an owners meeting scheduled for next week. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.

You'd think common sense would win the day and the moratorium period would just be eliminated. However, I was listening to Chuck Cooperstein yesterday and he was of the opinion that the NBA Player's Union liked the moratorium just the way it is now and that it might be difficult to change. I agree, it certainly would be fun to be a fly on the wall.

[Super B]

I don't know why they would max out Matthews. Check out this story though.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13231321/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets-talks-secure-williams-release

Williams wants to join the Mavs now. Maybe with Carlisle he can get back to being one of the better PG's. I am hopeful anyway.

[Eagle2]

Surely the moratorium rule will be eliminated or changed to a much shorter window. The NBA is the only Pro league in the U.S. that has that rule. Since this has been the way it has been going for years, NBA teams AND players should be able to trust the system. This isn't the first time the system been violated, but this is the biggest F/A and it has made the biggest impact On a team than ever before. I have to think the NBA will address it. There is an owners meeting scheduled for next week. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.

Agree. Most definitely will be addressed because of the attention and effect this recent fiasco has caused.

[Super B]

Yeah, I too had a problem with how Jordan handled all the aspects of this situation, but if a person's word means nothing, you shouldn't have any expectation that the little courtesy's will be done either. The leopard really showed his spots this time.



This situation will turn NBA free agency into the same circus as HS recruiting. You can bet that in the future no NBA team is going to stop pursuing alternative F/A's during a moratorium period. I can hardly wait until the first time that a team pulls back a contract and the Player's Union screams foul.........Pass the popcorn.

Surely the moratorium rule will be eliminated or changed to a much shorter window. The NBA is the only Pro league in the U.S. that has that rule. Since this has been the way it has been going for years, NBA teams AND players should be able to trust the system. This isn't the first time the system been violated, but this is the biggest F/A and it has made the biggest impact On a team than ever before. I have to think the NBA will address it. There is an owners meeting scheduled for next week. What I would give to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.

[SLC13]

One more F/A tidbit, I read this morning that the Wes Mathews signing is now a max deal at $70K for 4 years!?

Why are the Mav's signing this guy AT ALL, given what's happened with Jordan. $57M was silliness, $70M is just plain stupid for a guy coming off an achille's injury.

[SLC13]

the biggest problem I have with the whole Jordan thing, is he did not even have the respect or courtesy to contact Cuban and the Mavs when he started having second thoughts. This meant the Mavs were under the impression they had a "good faith" agreement with Jordan. This had a ripple effect because the Mavs stopped pursuing or did not pursue any alternative F/A options. Had Jordan informed he Mavs of his concerns they could have pursued other Free Agents. They did not find out until the eleventh hour, by which time it was too late.



Where they go from here we can discuss on the Mavs team thread.

Yeah, I too had a problem with how Jordan handled all the aspects of this situation, but if a person's word means nothing, you shouldn't have any expectation that the little courtesy's will be done either. The leopard really showed his spots this time.

This situation will turn NBA free agency into the same circus as HS recruiting. You can bet that in the future no NBA team is going to stop pursuing alternative F/A's during a moratorium period. I can hardly wait until the first time that a team pulls back a contract and the Player's Union screams foul.........Pass the popcorn.

[Super B]

I didn't like the Jordan signing from the beginning and have said so consistently. I didn't feel he was worth the $$ then based on his performance and potential. I certainly don't want him now. He's not someone that will become " the man" that you can build a team around.



Eagle2, to answer your question; everyone has the right to change their mind, so that's not really at issue here. When you're making a decision about your professional life and the amount of $$ involved here, ADULTS examine what they really want, gather their facts and offers and then make a decision. KIDS on the other hand often don't know what they really want, usually don't get all the facts they need and often get swayed by the first compliments and offer thrown their way. DeAndre Jordan just proved that he's an immature KID.

the biggest problem I have with the whole Jordan thing, is he did not even have the respect or courtesy to contact Cuban and the Mavs when he started having second thoughts. This meant the Mavs were under the impression they had a "good faith" agreement with Jordan. This had a ripple effect because the Mavs stopped pursuing or did not pursue any alternative F/A options. Had Jordan informed he Mavs of his concerns they could have pursued other Free Agents. They did not find out until the eleventh hour, by which time it was too late.



Where they go from here we can discuss on the Mavs team thread.

[Eagle2]

I didn't like the Jordan signing from the beginning and have said so consistently. I didn't feel he was worth the $$ then based on his performance and potential. I certainly don't want him now. He's not someone that will become " the man" that you can build a team around.

Eagle2, to answer your question; everyone has the right to change their mind, so that's not really at issue here. When you're making a decision about your professional life and the amount of $$ involved here, ADULTS examine what they really want, gather their facts and offers and then make a decision. KIDS on the other hand often don't know what they really want, usually don't get all the facts they need and often get swayed by the first compliments and offer thrown their way. DeAndre Jordan just proved that he's an immature KID.

Point taken.Definitely an immature kid along with poor advisors. I guess its no different than a high school athlete doing a flip flop after verbally committing to a university or a college coach leaving a university after recruiting athletes. No common courtesy necessary. I guess I am just too old school/fashioned where a man's word meant something (was as good as gold) or where a courtesy phone call/conversation was acceptable and understandable.

[SLC13]

Reneging on his word and goes back to Clippers. Delivers a knockout blow to the Mavs that puts them in deep hurt. Does this now force the Mavs to blow it up? Wondering if this was Jordan plan all along or does a man have the right to change his mind?A man's word is supposed to be good. Sure Cuban will try and petition NBA & players association for future and because of the domino effect it causes? I guess teams have no recourse during this bargaining period? What happen to all this talk about Jordan and CP3?

I didn't like the Jordan signing from the beginning and have said so consistently. I didn't feel he was worth the $$ then based on his performance and potential. I certainly don't want him now. He's not someone that will become " the man" that you can build a team around.

Eagle2, to answer your question; everyone has the right to change their mind, so that's not really at issue here. When you're making a decision about your professional life and the amount of $$ involved here, ADULTS examine what they really want, gather their facts and offers and then make a decision. KIDS on the other hand often don't know what they really want, usually don't get all the facts they need and often get swayed by the first compliments and offer thrown their way. DeAndre Jordan just proved that he's an immature KID.

[Super B]

I haven't felt like updating this thread or talking about it. I will this weekend.

[Eagle2]

Deandre Jordan signs with the Dallas Mavericks. 4 years, $80+M

Reneging on his word and goes back to Clippers. Delivers a knockout blow to the Mavs that puts them in deep hurt. Does this now force the Mavs to blow it up? Wondering if this was Jordan plan all along or does a man have the right to change his mind?A man's word is supposed to be good. Sure Cuban will try and petition NBA & players association for future and because of the domino effect it causes? I guess teams have no recourse during this bargaining period? What happen to all this talk about Jordan and CP3?

[Eagle2]

yes. Thank you. I already have the Mavs post updated. Barea deal is already Done. He agrees to a 2 year deal.

Also on roster Dwight Powell & Jeremy Evans.

[Super B]

also JJ Barerra.

yes. Thank you. I already have the Mavs post updated. Barea deal is already Done. He agrees to a 2 year deal.

[Super B]

Spurs' Belinelli, Joseph and Baynes signed with different teams.

[Super B]

Rockets resigned Beverly and Brewer, talking to Josh Smith.

[Eagle2]

Mavs plan to talk to Devin Harris and the J.E.T.

also JJ Barerra.

[Super B]

Mavs plan to talk to Devin Harris and the J.E.T.

[Super B]

The Spurs acquisition of Aldridge is pretty big IMO. I could see Duncan taking on the Robinson role here and giving up the primary leadership role to Aldridge. Getting rid of Splitter and Baynes may have been necessary to get this done, but now they have to figure out who fills that role. The answer is obvious. Duncan. Duncan played Center in college. The man is seven feet tall. When he came into the league he played power forward for obvious reasons, yet even when Robinson started coming off the bench, Duncan didn't start playing Center. Not even when Robinson retired. For whatever reason the Spurs or Duncan insisted on keeping Duncan as the PF. I have always felt Duncan's natural position was Center. There is no reason he cannot be the starting Center now and play along side Aldridge.

Either way the Spurs just ensured they will be legit contenders for a long time to come.

[SLC13]

Jordan is no bandaid, but I get what you are saying. In a way I am disappointed, especially after hearing Cuban admit that had they not gotten these guys, that's exactly what they would have done. Blow it up. Take a listen to this Cuban interview on The Ticket yesterday.
http://www.bobanddan.com/guests/?plyrrec=178026

Well Jordon might be a little better than a band aid, but you have to rotate him in and out during crunch time because he can't shoot foul shots. That doesn't equal $80M to me, but maybe that's today's NBA. I'm not getting the Mathews acquisition, I just remember him being a PO no show for Portland..

Look at Aldridge's contract with the Spurs. It seems to me that the Mavs could have spent $140M to keep Chandler and sign Aldridge and been closer to a team that could win the West than what they've done..

[Super B]

#GoSpursGo

[Super B]

So now as a Mavs fan you have to hope Matthews and Parsons can come back to as close to what they were pre-injury as possible. You have to hope they take the draft seriously from now on. You have to hope they can continue to add solid bargain pieces that are complimentary to each other. You have to hope Carlisle can be the great coach and master of fitting any player combos together that we know he is.

If ALL of those things work, they should remain very competitive. If even one of those don't work, they could miss playoffs.

[Super B]

Jordan is no bandaid, but I get what you are saying. In a way I am disappointed, especially after hearing Cuban admit that had they not gotten these guys, that's exactly what they would have done. Blow it up. Take a listen to this Cuban interview on The Ticket yesterday.

http://www.bobanddan.com/guests/?plyrrec=178026

[SLC13]

Per Cuban Barea will be back.
Deandre Jordan signs with the Dallas Mavericks. 4 years, $80+M
Also Wes Matthews deal is done. 4 years, $57M

$140M for Jordon and Mathews..........wow, just f@#&ing wow!!? Cuban really does have more money than brains.

So much for the "blowing it up" strategy. Sorry, it's hard for me to get excited over these signings, they both look like band aids to me..

[Super B]

Mavs plan to re-up Devin Harris too.

[Eagle2]

Per Cuban Barea will be back.

Also Wes Matthews deal is done. 4 years, $57M

Great was concerned about Mavs PG position. Barea can get the job done on offense. Anderson at 2, Parsons at 3,Dirk/Mattews 4, Jordan at 5. Would like to see more youth start at 3-4 and bring Dirk off bench.

[Super B]

Per Cuban Barea will be back.

Also Wes Matthews deal is done. 4 years, $57M

[Super B]

Word is the Mavs are talking with the Jet to see if he would be interested in getting back on THEIR runway. Also, as previously reported, JJ Barea has talked to Miami, but that is far from a done deal. He still could come back to the Mavs.

[Super B]

Deandre Jordan signs with the Dallas Mavericks. 4 years, $80+M

[Eagle2]

No additional news on the Mavericks 2015-16 "fill the roster quest". The bigger question, though, is this the time to blow this up and start collecting assets?? I'm thinking that it is.

Yes agree as much as I hate to see/say it. Its time for the mavericks to blow it up and start over. Take the losses and go(draft) after some of this fresh young talent coming out of colleges. Gosh look at all of the talent that just got drafted from the Kentucky developmental team plus Duke and others. Face it the Mavs are not a good free agent producer its just a band aid or temporary fix that gives them nothing. Cuban and the Mavs have lost a lot of their glimmer they once held years ago as a team to play for. Dirk no longer can carry this team and needs some quality secondary players. Carlisle deserves better and probably could develop some young stars. Would like to see nothing more than Dirk leaving the Mavs help developing a group of young superstars.Yes Cuban and the Mavs blow this thing help. Time ran out years ago. Too many other teams have surpassed you ie San Antonio, Houston, Clippers, Warriors, OKC.